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Tonystark616

Posts: 1808 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 17 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:00 am | |
| | DhampirLoveInterest wrote: | | Maybe.. But makeup can do wonders.. I think she'd be a good one.. And do you think we'll even here from her that much in Blood Promise? |
As far as the movies are concerned, they better not make whoever plays her look ugly, or else let all hell break loose, alright? |
|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:15 am | |
| Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results. Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think? |
|  | | greatavatar

Posts: 32 Join date: 2009-06-30 Age: 22 Location: wouldn't you like to know? *evil smirk*
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:10 pm | |
| | xMiss Bat wrote: | Sometimes, I really despise Lissa. When you're reading through the books, Rose has all these problems that she can't address to Lissa, because Lissa's always going on and on about her and Christian. I think, if she wasn't so self absorbed, she would have realized there was something brewing with Dimka and Rose. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Lissa, but sometimes I can... I don't know. Despise her, like I said. xD; I know its part of the guardians duty to protect their Moroi, but Lissa and Rose were friends first,ya know? Rose goes out of her way to make sure Lissa's safe, the least Lissa could do was put Christian aside for a moment or two and really have a sit down with her best friend. At times, I think its more Rose going out of her way for Lissa, than the other way around.
And you're right, Lissa is extremely needy. And clingy. But thats what makes the story so.. real, I guess. I know a lot of needy clingy egotistical people. xD; |
YOu have literally taken the words from my mouth. Thank you.
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|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 1808 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 17 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:16 pm | |
| | SecretMagic wrote: | Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results. Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think? |
Maybe this Revolution that the angel lady's[Lissa, i mean! ] uncle was talking about, was meant to either bring the Strigoi on the endangered species list, or to get the Moroi to be even more endangered than before?
In any case, when will the major strigoi huntings start resuming, guys? |
|  | | Dimitri&Rose

Posts: 104 Join date: 2009-07-19 Location: TeXaS
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:00 pm | |
| | SecretMagic wrote: | Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results. Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think? |
I know I'm late, but I also agree that Lissa wouldn't be a good queen. If anyone disagreed with her, she is likely to use compulsion so that they would follow her in what she wants. _________________ Rose: "Do you think I'm pretty?" He regarded me with utter seriousness, like he always did. Dimitri: "I think you're beautiful." Rose: "Beautiful?" Dimitri: "You are so beautiful, it hurts me sometimes."
"No. If I let myself love you, I won't throw myself in front of her. I'll throw myself in front of you." -Dimitri to Rose
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|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:15 am | |
| | Tonystark616 wrote: | | In any case, when will the major strigoi huntings start resuming, guys? | I don't think they're ever going to actually head off and hunt strigoi, or at least not for a very long time. Even if the whole Moroi-fighting-with-magic thing got passed it would still be used as a defence: if they're attacked, then they might zap them. I doubt they'll move past that line of thinking in the near future.
| Dimitri&Rose wrote: | | SecretMagic wrote: | Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results. Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think? |
I know I'm late, but I also agree that Lissa wouldn't be a good queen. If anyone disagreed with her, she is likely to use compulsion so that they would follow her in what she wants. | Late doesn't matter I'm just glad someone else thinks the same way. That's not to say she wouldn't have good ideas, just that if she lost her temper regarding a possible bad idea it could be disasterous for the Moroi/Dhampir community. _________________ . . ...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane. "Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse." The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real." "I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"
"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov
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|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 1808 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 17 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:21 am | |
| Now you tell me about their problems in full, S.M! This is so wrong...the Moroi and Dhampirs should be the ones doing the hunting, not the other way around!!!  _________________ Please come and join us in this site, as we could use a hand in growing, right away. http://hogwartsstudents.darkbb.com/forum.htm Is the Ultimate Coordinator, Kira Yamato, Still Alive?If he is alive, then could someone please tell him to come in, and kill the Volturi with Strike Freedom Gundam, please? |
|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:26 am | |
| They should. But lets face it, even if so many of them were willing to fight they have to be trained before they can go off killing people, and the Strigoi (if they're so into forming giant groups) won't be oblivious to their actions and it's a lot easier to create Strigoi than it is Dhampirs or Moroi. They could potentially have a giantic war with all humans being turned into Strigoi and only a few Dhampirs and Moroi willing to stand up to them. (though a few humans might need to say human for food sources) _________________ . . ...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane. "Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse." The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real." "I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"
"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov
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|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 1808 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 17 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:34 am | |
| | SecretMagic wrote: | | They should. But lets face it, even if so many of them were willing to fight they have to be trained before they can go off killing people, and the Strigoi (if they're so into forming giant groups) won't be oblivious to their actions and it's a lot easier to create Strigoi than it is Dhampirs or Moroi. They could potentially have a giantic war with all humans being turned into Strigoi and only a few Dhampirs and Moroi willing to stand up to them. (though a few humans might need to say human for food sources) |
You mean if the Dhampirs and Moroi don't watch it, S.M?  _________________ Please come and join us in this site, as we could use a hand in growing, right away. http://hogwartsstudents.darkbb.com/forum.htm Is the Ultimate Coordinator, Kira Yamato, Still Alive?If he is alive, then could someone please tell him to come in, and kill the Volturi with Strike Freedom Gundam, please? |
|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:49 am | |
| What do you mean by 'don't watch it'? If they turn a blind eye? I just mean that if Moroi and Dhampirs are both fighting, the strigoi are likely to notice what they're doing and put up a fight. They have the abilities to create more of themselves a lot quicker than the Moroi and Dhampirs and a lot quicker than our favourite group of people can learn how to defend themselves. Take Christian for example, he's been working with Tasha for quite a while trying to defend himself with his magic and he's still not up to scratch. The Moroi are not going to be ready to fight a battle against the strigoi no matter how much people like Victor, Tasha and even Lissa push for it. The acceptance by the Moroi government to allow Moroi to fight can only be one step it can't get much further than that too quickly. _________________ . . ...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane. "Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse." The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real." "I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"
"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov
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|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 1808 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 17 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:16 am | |
| | SecretMagic wrote: | What do you mean by 'don't watch it'? If they turn a blind eye? I just mean that if Moroi and Dhampirs are both fighting, the strigoi are likely to notice what they're doing and put up a fight. They have the abilities to create more of themselves a lot quicker than the Moroi and Dhampirs and a lot quicker than our favourite group of people can learn how to defend themselves. Take Christian for example, he's been working with Tasha for quite a while trying to defend himself with his magic and he's still not up to scratch. The Moroi are not going to be ready to fight a battle against the strigoi no matter how much people like Victor, Tasha and even Lissa push for it. The acceptance by the Moroi government to allow Moroi to fight can only be one step it can't get much further than that too quickly. |
Then how many more steps must be walked, before it could be safe for the huntings to resume, S.M?  _________________ Please come and join us in this site, as we could use a hand in growing, right away. http://hogwartsstudents.darkbb.com/forum.htm Is the Ultimate Coordinator, Kira Yamato, Still Alive?If he is alive, then could someone please tell him to come in, and kill the Volturi with Strike Freedom Gundam, please? |
|  | | madii

Posts: 46 Join date: 2009-08-02
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:44 pm | |
| okay i don't like how every one is aacting like lissa is all me me me i mean reason she went all populat in the first one was to stop all the blood whore coments about rose and as for not noticeing the whole thing wit h dimitri really no one did ecxept for people stalking them adrian walked upon it on acident and victor guessed because he is a creeper well actually natalie figured it out too but she was also stalking her to get info for her dad eddie didn't notice it mason didn't motice it lissa is a good person she isn't self absorbed she just has her own problems to deal with like say the whole going crazy thing andthen the queen dissing her in front ofevery one or mia being out to get her oh and let's not forget the thing with her "uncle" kid naping her and torturing her when she trusted him then she has all these royal things she has to deal with but when she asked rose staay instead of going after dimitri i mean they are best friends they've been together since kindergaten and now she just found out that she was in love with dimitri and now she is going to go aftetr him and just leave lissa is not a bad person or a bad friend and i think she would make a great queen and she would not use compulsion to get her way if people don't agree wit hher she souldn't even use it when jesse was torturing her she only uses it for good when it's needed such as when they need jeremy's car to try toget away from the guardians or when she used it to get every one to stop talking smack about rose so every one just stop dissing hher |
|  | | Dimitri&Rose

Posts: 104 Join date: 2009-07-19 Location: TeXaS
 | |  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:19 pm | |
| | Tonystark616 wrote: | | SecretMagic wrote: | What do you mean by 'don't watch it'? If they turn a blind eye? I just mean that if Moroi and Dhampirs are both fighting, the strigoi are likely to notice what they're doing and put up a fight. They have the abilities to create more of themselves a lot quicker than the Moroi and Dhampirs and a lot quicker than our favourite group of people can learn how to defend themselves. Take Christian for example, he's been working with Tasha for quite a while trying to defend himself with his magic and he's still not up to scratch. The Moroi are not going to be ready to fight a battle against the strigoi no matter how much people like Victor, Tasha and even Lissa push for it. The acceptance by the Moroi government to allow Moroi to fight can only be one step it can't get much further than that too quickly. |
Then how many more steps must be walked, before it could be safe for the huntings to resume, S.M?  | I don't know how many more steps need to be taken, this is just my opinion.
Yeah, I don't like to think of Lissa as a self-obsessed person. She's definitely not like that. If she was she wouldn't feel the need to help everyone who was hurt with her gift. No-one's denying that she's helped Rose a lot and that in moments of great need her compulsion is amazingly useful. At the same time she has the potential to use it unwisely and sometimes without her noticing. I was re-reading a section in Shadow Kiss the other day where we're told Lissa used compulsion on a teacher to help work with Christian, and she did it without meaning to. She slips up occasionally and no-one can blame her when it comes so naturally to her. But I wouldn't want to be ruled by someone who could force people to do their will, even if it was a mistake. _________________ . . ...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane. "Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse." The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real." "I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"
"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov
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|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 1808 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 17 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Lissa Dragomir Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:11 am | |
| Lissa's an Angel Princess...it makes sense for her to be able to do this.  _________________ Please come and join us in this site, as we could use a hand in growing, right away. http://hogwartsstudents.darkbb.com/forum.htm Is the Ultimate Coordinator, Kira Yamato, Still Alive?If he is alive, then could someone please tell him to come in, and kill the Volturi with Strike Freedom Gundam, please? |
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