Molnija Marks have any charm in it?

Not The Blood · Posts: 154 Join date: 2009-06-19 Age: 18 Location: Seattle

So Sydney said her tattoo contained Moroi blood as a "gift" to the alchemists do you think that maybe Molnija marks contain something as well? or possibly the promise mark contains something...

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Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

I do! I think the promise mark contains small doses of compulsion that wills a guardian to well stay a guardian.

Not The Blood · Posts: 154 Join date: 2009-06-19 Age: 18 Location: Seattle

I don't know compulsion is pretty taboo (though I suspect they all use it just not noticeable)

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

I don't think either of the Molnija Marks or the Promise mark would have moroi magic. They're guardian related, nothing to do with moroi. The Promise mark, doesn't that just mean you've graduated, because you're fully qualified to guard someone and you've undergone all the training in order to be paired within someone? It's just a sign of skills.
The Alchemist mark, to me, seemed more like a power representation. By having Moroi magic in it, it showed they were of super importance. Besides, their role in society in un-negotiable. The achlemists must do their role, the guardians have a choice, and while choosing to not guard seems slightly unnatural to some (*cough* Rose *cough*) it's still up to the dhampir to decide whether they want to gaurd or not. Therefore the promise mark is a symbol of their committment to protecting Moroi, not really a symbol of moroi control.

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RandD4ever · Subject: Re: Molnija Marks have any charm in it? Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:05 pm

SecretMagic wrote:

I don't think either of the Molnija Marks or the Promise mark would have moroi magic. They're guardian related, nothing to do with moroi. The Promise mark, doesn't that just mean you've graduated, because you're fully qualified to guard someone and you've undergone all the training in order to be paired within someone? It's just a sign of skills.
The Alchemist mark, to me, seemed more like a power representation. By having Moroi magic in it, it showed they were of super importance. Besides, their role in society in un-negotiable. The achlemists must do their role, the guardians have a choice, and while choosing to not guard seems slightly unnatural to some (*cough* Rose *cough*) it's still up to the dhampir to decide whether they want to gaurd or not. Therefore the promise mark is a symbol of their committment to protecting Moroi, not really a symbol of moroi control.

Plus, the guardians wouldn't need the extra protection.They have it in their blood fom their Moroi ancesters
(sorry if I misspelled anything...)

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

RandD4ever wrote:

Plus, the guardians wouldn't need the extra protection.They have it in their blood fom their Moroi ancesters
(sorry if I misspelled anything...)

I don't think they actually have too much protection from being part Moroi, unless you're referring to the fact that they have physical qualities that have been strengthened by moroi genes.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

RandD4ever · Subject: Re: Molnija Marks have any charm in it? Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:07 pm

SecretMagic wrote:

RandD4ever wrote:

Plus, the guardians wouldn't need the extra protection.They have it in their blood fom their Moroi ancesters
(sorry if I misspelled anything...)

I don't think they actually have too much protection from being part Moroi, unless you're referring to the fact that they have physical qualities that have been strengthened by moroi genes.

SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT READ BP!!

Yeah but didn't Rose have a memory of taking care of Dimitri? She fliped out when she saw he was bleeding and said he would get an infection. Dimitris said that wasnt likely. Then the book goes on to say why not if my memory is correct...

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Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

From my understanding the only extra abilities they have from Moroi is agility, heightened senses ( sight, smell n hearing) and heightened immune system....

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

RandD4ever wrote:

SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT READ BP!!

Yeah but didn't Rose have a memory of taking care of Dimka and she fliped out and said he would get an infection and he said that wasnt likely.

I don't remember enough of the memories to make a definite response to that, but Rose was probably just over-reacting. She cares a lot for Dimitri, so while he may not have thought it was all that bad, she possibly thought too much about it.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

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but Rose was probably just over-reacting. She cares a lot for Dimitri, so while he may not have thought it was all that bad, she possibly thought too much about it.

- Your absolutely correct. She was over reacting. She cares so much for Dimitri - and usually SHE is the one injured- it was kinda of the first time the table were turned and she jumped into action like always ( cleaning his cut) without really thinking about. Dimitri went along with it cause of his feelings for Rose. But even Rose said- because of their heightened immune system they hardly ever catch a cold ,let alone get infections. The cut wasn't bad or deep... Rose just saw blood and was worried.

Mandyjg20 · Subject: Re: Molnija Marks have any charm in it? Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:53 pm

I do not think they do, but that would one hell of an idea. Like the stakes if they could do that to their tats, its possible a strigoi would not be able to touch them and then we would have more guardians. is that possible?

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RandD4ever · Subject: Re: Molnija Marks have any charm in it? Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:38 pm

Peace love n VA wrote:

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but Rose was probably just over-reacting. She cares a lot for Dimitri, so while he may not have thought it was all that bad, she possibly thought too much about it.

- Your absolutely correct. She was over reacting. She cares so much for Dimitri - and usually SHE is the one injured- it was kinda of the first time the table were turned and she jumped into action like always ( cleaning his cut) without really thinking about. Dimitri went along with it cause of his feelings for Rose. But even Rose said- because of their heightened immune system they hardly ever catch a cold ,let alone get infections. The cut wasn't bad or deep... Rose just saw blood and was worried.

I no whe was overreacting but my pint was that they have the Moroi blood in them to , as Dimitri said, keethem from gettin infections and diseases.

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Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

Mhmm RandD4ever. I agree with your point. Your right.

Moroi blood gives them a resistance from infections and diseases. I wish i had that resistance I'm fighting a cold :sniff sniff: :-(

RandD4ever · Subject: Re: Molnija Marks have any charm in it? Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:31 pm

Me too. I have had Bronchitis for 2 weeks.

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Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

Thats terrible! I've had bronchitis 5 times last year ( last winter ). Which is why I'm so nervous now....whenever i catch a cold it automatically turns into bronchitis- i can never just have a normal cold. And my life is so hectic right now- my classes are gearing up , projects rolling in, and i was offered an editor position. So don't need to be sick.

U know , i always wondered why the alchemists never tested Moroi Blood to find out what it is in the blood that gives them the resistance to illnesses and stuff... if they can isolate that factor.. they could save millions of human lives. Maybe it's just humans and moroi are so segregated that idea was never explored- but i would feel kinda of guilty- it's like have a cure for something and keeping if all to yourself.