thing with victor (will they free him if so how and with who eles's help) ;)

madii · Posts: 46 Join date: 2009-08-02

omg the queen would freakout her precious Dragomir and Adrian doing ilegal stuff and she already hates rose

they will need a lot of outside and inside help like guards and maybe Rose's mom and other people okasana and mark eddie it will be complicated and hare but they can do it they have each other

any other therories please coment

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

I think he's going to be difficult. Either that or he really won't know where Robert is.
I mean, he'd been sick for a few year, knew what signs to look for in Spirit users (ie. healing) but attacked Lissa to get her to heal him not his brother?
Or perhaps Robert and Victor aren't as close as we think they are. Victor's a Royal, Robert's only his half-brother. Perhaps they've got some sibling rivalry going on.

As to actually breaking him out. I think Abe will have a major role in that one. He just seems to be the type of person who could get it done, especially since he's already managed to track Victor down at his top-secret/high-security prison that no-one was supposed to know about.

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"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

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I think that V will be dead from his disease by the time L and R get to him. Which will suck for Rose but she will figure something out. Maybe Dimitri's grandma will 'see' where Robert is. I can't wait to know what happens. I am sure Richelle will surprise us. Razz

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

I don't think Victor will be dead yet. It took a few years for him to get as bad as he was in Vampire Academy, and Lissa healed him (of the worst part at least). He's only been in prison for a few months. No, he'll still be alive.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

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i think it will take alot of hard work for them to get victor out but i think a twist might happen and they'll get him out somehow.

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Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

i actually think victor is going to claim he knows about his brother and his whereabouts just to let Lissa and Rose break him out- after all freedom is what he values most. And i agree i think Abe will play a big role in that. But, my guess is that victors brother is dead. My theory is victor tried to get his brother to heal him- but his brother was already driven crazy from spirits affects and refused. In the process of torturing or forcing his brother to be healed. ( kinda like what he did to Lissa).. his brother died. That's just my theory.

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

Peace love n VA wrote:

i actually think victor is going to claim he knows about his brother and his whereabouts just to let Lissa and Rose break him out- after all freedom is what he values most. And i agree i think Abe will play a big role in that. But, my guess is that victors brother is dead. My theory is victor tried to get his brother to heal him- but his brother was already driven crazy from spirits affects and refused. In the process of torturing or forcing his brother to be healed. ( kinda like what he did to Lissa).. his brother died. That's just my theory.

Nice theory. I never really thought about whether Robert would be alive or not, I'd always been thinking about Victor giving them the information. That would make a lot more sense as to why he spent so much effort searching for Lissa, if he had his brother around to heal him he wouldn't have needed Lissa.
Unless he used his own sickness as a cover-up and what he was testing was how strong Lissa's powers were in order to heal Robert from Spirit's side-effects?

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

CassandraC440 · Posts: 153 Join date: 2009-08-16 Age: 14 Location: Ohio

lissa could always use compulsion on vic. and make him tell them where his brother is.

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

CassandraC440 wrote:

lissa could always use compulsion on vic. and make him tell them where his brother is.

Ah, now there's an idea I never thought of. Nice suggestion Smile

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

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Unless he used his own sickness as a cover-up and what he was testing was how strong Lissa's powers were in order to heal Robert from Spirit's side-effects?

Oh my, i was so wrapped up in Victor being so selfish i NEVER even consider he was working to HELPING another person even if by evil ways. I really like your theory of him working to find a way to heal Robert's Spirit side effects!

And the possibility of Lissa using compulsion on Victor to get answers is very likely- that is if Rose has the patience not to use brute force upon sight. lol

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

Peace love n VA wrote:

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Unless he used his own sickness as a cover-up and what he was testing was how strong Lissa's powers were in order to heal Robert from Spirit's side-effects?

Oh my, i was so wrapped up in Victor being so selfish i NEVER even consider he was working to HELPING another person even if by evil ways. I really like your theory of him working to find a way to heal Robert's Spirit side effects!

I've only just started considering it myself. I mean, I thought he had good ideas with the whole revolution thing before, but that he was going about it in the wrong way. He could have found someone with similar views to him instead of being the only one pushing for it and consequently ending up in prison. But if underneath it all he's trying to save his brother too, then maybe he's not so bad.
He can't exactly help Robert while he's in prison and he's supposed to be there for life. So what would be the harm in telling Abe where Robert was at the end of Blood Promise? But he doesn't because Robert is his brother and deep down he's always been trying to protect him.
That's my new theory.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

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SecretMagic wrote:

I don't think Victor will be dead yet. It took a few years for him to get as bad as he was in Vampire Academy, and Lissa healed him (of the worst part at least). He's only been in prison for a few months. No, he'll still be alive.

How long will it be for them to find him though?

Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

Peace love n VA wrote:

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

I agree. Remember, Abe's already managed to find him, so if Rose and Abe are both working together on this then he'll already have the location for her. Of course it might take a bit of convincing on Rose's part to make them work together, but I think Abe will recognise that she has a stubborn/determined streak and will help her.

I think they're going to have the most trouble convincing victor to break out. While prison might not be a happy place to live in, they're only breaking him out for their own means. He'll want something more out of it.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

RandD4ever

SecretMagic wrote:

Peace love n VA wrote:

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

I agree. Remember, Abe's already managed to find him, so if Rose and Abe are both working together on this then he'll already have the location for her. Of course it might take a bit of convincing on Rose's part to make them work together, but I think Abe will recognise that she has a stubborn/determined streak and will help her.

I think they're going to have the most trouble convincing victor to break out. While prison might not be a happy place to live in, they're only breaking him out for their own means. He'll want something more out of it.

Yes but what if Abe wants Rose to stay at the Academy? Do you think he will still give her his location? I mean he did ask her if she would 'make a break for it' (lack of better words..) when she was sent back to St.Vlad's... scratch