thing with victor (will they free him if so how and with who eles's help) ;)

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

RandD4ever wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

Peace love n VA wrote:

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

I agree. Remember, Abe's already managed to find him, so if Rose and Abe are both working together on this then he'll already have the location for her. Of course it might take a bit of convincing on Rose's part to make them work together, but I think Abe will recognise that she has a stubborn/determined streak and will help her.

I think they're going to have the most trouble convincing victor to break out. While prison might not be a happy place to live in, they're only breaking him out for their own means. He'll want something more out of it.

Yes but what if Abe wants Rose to stay at the Academy? Do you think he will still give her his location? I mean he did ask her if she would 'make a break for it' (lack of better words..) when she was sent back to St.Vlad's... scratch

Well Rose only has a couple of months left at the academy. She'll probably see out the rest of her schooling and then attempt to free Victor. Abe can't really be too annoyed at that one. The fact that he sent her that message (through Adrian) to inform her that he'd already spoken to Victor proves he was still trying to keep her in the loop (or maybe Victor did give him the information, but he was trying to keep Rose away from it all) either way, he's still willing to speak to her about what he's doing in the whole Freeing-Victor-Process.

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RandD4ever

Very true... Very true... But do you think he is willing to help actually free him?

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

I think there's a chance he will, especially if it means he can keep an eye on Rose and help her out of danger. He may not have been in her life as a child, but to me he seems pretty damn protective of her.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

RandD4ever

I don't know... I think he will tell her the location and advise her not to do anything. I just thought of this! What if Victor gets his other followers- he did say he had others- to break him out before Rose can get to him? Then no one woud know where he is...
...Do you think she will stay for graduation?

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

I think she will stay for graduation, she promised. And she's a bit safer inside the Academy than out of it.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

RandD4ever

She didn't stay when she dropped out. She knew she was probably going to die when she went out to find D. That didn't stop her...

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SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

RandD4ever wrote:

She didn't stay when she dropped out. She knew she was probably going to die when she went out to find D. That didn't stop her...

But she had a different driving force that time. SHe thought she had to save him alone and without any help at all. Also, she was attempting to kill the man she loved, not bring him back to life. She left then because she had all these conflicting emotions/situations that were telling her to do something for herself and she thought finding and killing Dimitri was going to solve those conflicts for her. WHat she realised during her journey was that she needs to be with those who love her in order to pull through.
If she wants to leave and find Victor, she either has to face the same alone journey that she had going to Russia, or she waits and takes her friends (and Help) with her.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

I agree with Kim!

Rose made a promise to finish and stay at the Academy until she graduates. If we know Rose, then she will never go back on that promise.

Plus, the last book she realized she cannot be apart from Lissa because stuff like Avery will happen. Also, she realized she has help in her friends and she can't do it alone.

Also, i think Abe is going to play a role in the whole victor thing- as to what part i'm not sure. But i think Abe has his own motives behind helping Rose.

RandD4ever

She went back on her promise to Lissa when she dropped out... But I guess you guys are right... I mean she doesnt want to drop out and disappoint her mom and Alberta again...

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Peace love n VA · Posts: 368 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 21 Location: New York

RandD4ever wrote:

She went back on her promise to Lissa when she dropped out... But I guess you guys are right... I mean she doesnt want to drop out and disappoint her mom and Alberta again...

You know I never really considered Rose in BP was going back on her promise to Lissa. Maybe my feelings for her and Dimitri overpowers any thoughts i have about Rose and Lissa... but i didn't consider that a breaking promise sort of thing. I thought of it as a like i gotta do this to be able to do that sort of thing.

SecretMagic · Posts: 1269 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia

Peace love n VA wrote:

RandD4ever wrote:

She went back on her promise to Lissa when she dropped out... But I guess you guys are right... I mean she doesnt want to drop out and disappoint her mom and Alberta again...

You know I never really considered Rose in BP was going back on her promise to Lissa. Maybe my feelings for her and Dimitri overpowers any thoughts i have about Rose and Lissa... but i didn't consider that a breaking promise sort of thing. I thought of it as a like i gotta do this to be able to do that sort of thing.

Yeah, I didn't see it as breaking a promise either because Rose sort of had the intention to return.

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...arguing about who would win in a fight: Dumbledore from the Harry Potter books or Magnus Bane.
"Dumbledore would totally win," said the first one. "He has the badass killing curse."
The second lycanthrope made a trenchant point. "But Dumbledore isn't real."
"I don't think Magnus Bane is real either," scoffed the first. "Have you ever met him?"

"You're burned into my mind forever. There is nothing, nothing in this world that will ever change that." Dimitri Belikov

madii · Posts: 46 Join date: 2009-08-02

well kind of she said if she succeded and didn't end up dying in the process she would come back

she never really promised anyone that she was going to come back

she didn't outright promise lissa or adrian she would come back

she told lissa just thatshe had to do it and that would become her guardian if they let her if she came back

and she told adrian that she would give him a fair chance if she came back

but notice there are a lore of ifs in that she really had no idea what was gonna happen
\but there were no outright promises made

idk i'm just kinda confused now

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Ok my thoughts on what may happen. I think change is coming, and its gonna be huge. I think the Moroi are really going to start learning to fight with magic I mean why not they won a hell of a battle. I think Janine and Alberta will help Rose. Im not exactly sure how it will play out but I think that they are going to help her, maybe like her gang in russia did with holding down a strigoi, only it will be Dimtri. I think Abe will help break Victor out. I think they will "help" him rise to power, with Lissa helping him, if that makes sense. Yes I know they hate and are scared of Victor, but he had good views and things are changing, he will lead the revolution and then let someone like Lissa take over when he can no longer do it. I dont think he will try to make Lissa heal him anymore, #1 he got caught last time, #2 his plan on the revolution will be happening, and thats what he had really wanted. They will find his brother and know what to do to change Dimitri. How the romantic relationships are going to happen and work out I have no idea on that.

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